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We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.
what is going on everybody welcome to
lunchtime with the Clydesdale we got train
all of in the house what's going on
um yeah we're back for another day it
has been like slow news week man uh
Amanda it's my Friday and I wish it
was mine too Jess what's going on miss
you sister miss you
tell you what this girl this girl jess
rosy view photography um had some of the
greatest talks like at events she she went
with me for one year we we hung
out with late night table talks we
probably upset jamie and cheryl in the
house uh but man we had some good
talks and all the stuff you're not
supposed to talk about
All the stuff you're not supposed to talk
about at a table, we did,
and they were just really good talks.
Denise's Friday, two men.
You guys.
CK Kevin.
Oh, my God, yes, I love those.
Yeah, they were great.
They were great.
We were like the two night owls.
Everybody else was in bed.
So, Vicky.
so proud dad moment um my daughter i
tell you how cool she is um i
tell you how cool she is all the
time and i'm a proud dad so i'm
gonna say it again uh last night she
went off the grid she went camping in
the mountains
a photo shoot she was there not to
just camp and enjoy herself but to go
out and take pictures of people wearing
their apparel while camping um and i can't
wait to see what it comes out like
i don't know if i told you guys
like the coolest thing that happened um to
me when we were out there we were
driving down the road to go to dinner
one night and my my daughter goes oh
my gosh there's my picture
And up on a billboard was a picture
that she had taken in an advertisement for
her company.
So yeah, like just the coolest stuff.
She is like so happy right now.
I can't even express how cool that is
to have a daughter that just has found
her groove and is so happy.
As a parent,
there's just no better feeling in the
world.
No better feeling.
Chris Bisterfield is in the house.
Scott's going to be on another Realm
Thursday, three p.m.
Eastern.
Yes, I am.
We just set that up this morning.
So I'll be on Chris's podcast October
second.
Sean and Oregon breakfast with the
Clydesdale.
I'll raise my mug to you.
So another little tidbit I wanted to share
with you guys.
CrossFit Games posted this picture today.
I don't know if you guys have seen
this.
The long shorts at the CrossFit Games.
I believe that's Pat Barber,
but wearing the long shorts.
Can I just say my legs are so
short that every single pair of my shorts
are long shorts.
I am like five, ten, five, eleven.
And my legs are like.
I look like those sausages at the
Milwaukee Brewers games that run around
the field that have these long,
long torsos and these itty bitty legs.
That's how my body is made up.
So I wear short shorts,
and they look like long shorts.
Crazy.
Because I had those rogue board shorts
back in the day,
and they were all the way down to
the tops of my knees.
So, um, so yeah, look at those shorts,
man.
Neil Maddox.
That's so old school.
Austin, Molly yellow.
But man, I miss these colors.
I miss these Parker, these, sorry,
saw Lucas Parker in the chat.
I miss these colors on the field.
They were just the best.
So easy to find your athlete and root
for your athlete.
And then the Lucas Parker, there it is.
wearing the old banana hammock uh those
are the swimsuits i wore back when i
was competitive swimming it was way before
the long shorts in that um gosh i
can't believe i wore those for like years
and felt comfortable in them i i can't
even i can't even imagine and we got
some dan bailey big old headbands
Those weren't the big headbands.
The Rich Froning headbands were the...
There we go.
The Holmberg with the big headband.
And then the tall socks.
Everybody had to have the coolest tall
socks.
And Chris Spieler's headphones.
Yeah.
No earbuds back then.
No earbuds at all.
Uh, Vicki, I still wear those,
those wide headbands.
I do too.
Like I sweat so much.
Um, I do.
I wear those to, uh, just,
just for out of necessity.
If it's a long workout.
So anyway,
just I'd share that little walk down
memory lane.
Taking me back to the good old days
before my twelve back procedures.
When I could wear all that stuff and
feel confident and all.
So one thing I wanted to talk about
is last night I'm sitting at home and
I get an alert from ESPN.
I'm a big Pirates fan in baseball.
And Paul Skeens is the youngest pitcher to
finish the season with an ERA lower than
two since Dwight Gooden in nineteen eighty
five.
So we're talking.
Forty, fifty years, right?
No, forty years.
Forty years since anybody had done that.
He is such a good pitcher.
And he only gives...
He gives up less than two runs every
nine innings.
And the Pirates never win when he pitches
because they can't score enough runs to
support that.
And so it made me think, like,
how many...
How many athletes are like that where
they're so good, so good,
but something fails them to prevent them
from winning?
And I think about, like, Laura Horvat.
She has been the one athlete that has
been able to go toe-to-toe with Tia Toomey
at any event in the CrossFit Games season
or Rogue.
But she has that one thing.
She has that one thing that just prevents
her from winning.
If that one thing shows up,
it's such a bad performance that it takes
everything else away.
And I was trying to think,
are there any other athletes that are so
great at everything else,
but they just have one thing?
One thing.
But Joseph,
I would argue if she could do strict
deficit handstand pushups,
just above average,
she could compete for a win against Tia.
Because they go back and forth in other
events.
Tia doesn't win everything.
The problem is that she's not so bad
at something that there's a big point gap
at any point where people can take
advantage of that.
It just made me think about that.
Yeah.
Pat Vellner running swimming,
especially swimming.
His swimming is so bad.
So bad.
You know, it seemed a great, great one.
DB and her back squats.
DB finished fourth.
At the CrossFit Games with a dead last
finish in the back squats.
That's it.
Patrick Vellner,
you could say the swimming,
you could say the first workout,
whatever it is.
But I think it's even more extreme for
like Laura and DB.
I...
It just was an interesting thought that
came to my head with this because how
frustrating does it have to be for a
pitcher that's doing everything in his
power to be great and his team can't
score the minimum amount of runs to
support him?
And as much as I love Paul Skeens
and I try to watch every game that
he pitches,
I
Part of that's because I know he's
probably not going to be here soon because
the frustration is going to grow and the
pirates are going to trade them to get
some draft picks and some prospects.
And eventually it's,
he's going to be gone and he's going
to do it for another team.
I've watched so many good pitchers leave
them, uh, and go to another team.
And then,
then I half root for them because I,
I knew them when Corey Leonard,
Barry Sanders.
Yeah.
I mean, Barry,
Barry Sanders did make the playoffs a
couple of years.
Um,
And he had a good team,
but not a great team.
So anyway, just a thought I had.
So I thought I'd talk about that just
for a brief moment and see how it
related to the CrossFit world.
So the other thing I wanted to talk
about is I was watching the spin last
night.
And I know, Jody,
you don't know who that is,
but it's a show on Wednesday nights.
And they were talking about what changes
they would make to Tearwaterpalooza.
And they were really dogging on the erg
chute.
And I think it could be exciting with
a couple tweaks.
On the broadcast,
we just couldn't see the green or red
light.
I think that's huge.
Without seeing that, it becomes very,
very boring.
The other thing is just have a dedicated
camera on the target so we can see
if they hit or not.
And just put it in the lower,
like a lower box in the corner.
You brought in the big boys to do
the production.
You probably paid hundreds of thousands of
dollars.
Why couldn't they have a dedicated camera
on the target to let us know if
it hit or not?
But the biggest thing they wanted to
change, and I think is a huge,
huge mistake, is...
is they think that it needs more teams
and their idea was to go away from
uh territories or countries or or whatever
or continents i think that's a huge
mistake i think people are more invested
because they're rooting for their region
of the world to win
If you go to a European semifinal,
what makes it so loud and so crazy
is all the athletes are from different
countries.
And so France is yelling for Victor Hoffa
and Claudia Gluck.
And you have Iceland rooting for the
daughters.
And you have the UK rooting for Lucy
Campbell.
And because of that...
It gets more exciting and the crowd is
much, much more into it.
If you take that away,
I think you take away the passion for
wanting your region to win.
And that is significant.
If you just do a draft,
there's no connection to a team.
Now you're back to just rooting for
athletes, and that's what the WFP is.
And so I think, like,
I'm okay with adding a team or two,
I think, but it needs to stay regional.
And I think the best way to do
that would be like North America, Europe,
Oceania.
You probably have to go like North America
or United States, Canada, Europe.
I don't know.
And the rest of the world.
But I think it just has to be...
Maybe,
but the old rogue red versus black was
really entertaining to me.
Yeah.
But Mark,
you're probably a geek like me who watch
anything.
I think it's just, um,
I think you just have to,
you have to think outside of our,
our box to bring in more people to
watch.
And here's my other thing about the other
teams that we just have to be careful
of.
And that is that one of the best
things about the event is it's only two
teams to watch.
So it makes it easier to watch.
There's no camera missing things going on.
It's just two teams.
The more teams you put on the floor...
I don't want it to become what the
CrossFit Games teams are,
where there's just mass confusion all over
the floor with.
Forty athletes all out there doing
whatever they do,
and nobody really understands what's going
on.
And so.
I think it needs to be kept intimate
with people,
with other teammates out there cheering,
things like that to make it what it
is.
Lots of suggestions on what it should be.
North America, Europe, Middle East,
and Africa, Asia, and Oceania.
Yeah, that would work,
except for you don't have South America in
there.
Not enough high-end talent in those other
demos.
We'd know beforehand already who was
winning the whole thing.
don't know i don't know we talked about
this a little bit sunday night um and
we named some decent people uh but you're
probably right you don't want to dilute it
either you're right you don't want to
dilute it too much but there's a big
list of people who weren't there this year
that would have been interesting to see in
the mix so maybe it's just a third
team and not four
Nobody picked North America to win,
and if you say you did,
you're a liar.
I did not pick North America to win.
I was wrong.
Just for mirrors, U.S., Europe, Canada,
Australia to start.
But you're leaving out other people who
are good,
and you just have to remember that.
I've said it every year.
Guy is awesome at this style of workout.
You can love or hate him,
and I know there's a lot of people
who hate him,
but he is really good at this.
He has superpowers that other people don't
have.
His gymnastics are good,
and the fact he was able to keep
up with Dallin on that power output burpee
thing was impressive.
I didn't think he was going to hang
at all on that.
He does.
He has superpowers and he has super holes.
And it's like a fifty fifty proposition.
So.
He kept up with him on the burpees
but had no juice otherwise.
He actually kept up with him on the
run and the burpees.
It was the bike where he lost it
all.
You can love or hate Guy.
Either way,
he wants you to buy him a bike.
There it is.
So, and on the bike,
Dallin is one of the best in the
world.
Flat out.
When he hits the go button, no,
but not very many people are keeping up
with him.
Dallin is not a great runner.
Keep keeping up with him is not a
great feat.
I think Dallin is better on an air
runner than he is on like the beach
or the dry land for sure.
Because his weight will push that
treadmill faster.
I think that actually helps Dallin in this
case.
So.
Yeah.
But anyway, I just don't, I think that,
well,
I think like a third team would be
interesting.
And though, as we're talking it out,
I think three is probably better than
four.
I think you, you take away the countries,
you take away the passion that people
would have to root for their region.
So, yeah,
that's what I'm going to say about that.
And the last thing I'm going to say
about the spin cast,
Who is John Young who doesn't know what
an appetizer is or doesn't eat appetizers?
Like, are you kidding me?
I'm not a big appetizer guy,
but I know what they are.
And my wife and daughter order them all
the time.
It's just crazy.
So train all of,
he looks like he eats appetizers.
I know.
Jess, I love a good appetizer.
I know.
John Young eats at Mickey D's.
No appetizers there.
Oh, that's a fact.
Um,
Yeah, so I found that interesting.
So anyway,
Mark Phillips just won some Oreos.
There you go.
Speaking of Oreos,
have you seen this new show?
It's, um, ninety nine to beat.
I think it is.
it's a whole show where they just do
like little games and the, and the,
like the one game is taking a piece
of spaghetti,
getting like five pieces of ZD on the
spaghetti and having it all on there.
And there's,
it starts with a hundred people and the
person who finishes last gets booted.
So the whole goal is not to win
each round.
It's just not to finish last.
And then the last place person goes home.
And then the next guess,
the next thing is there's a thousand
balloons.
Ninety nine of them have a lay in
them and you have to pop the balloon
and find all the lays.
And as long as you're not the last
one, you stick around.
Last person goes home.
It was it was way more fun to
watch than I thought it would be.
But I love the premise that it's not
about winning the match.
It's just don't finish last.
So, Vicky, it's on Fox.
And that's what it is.
It's exactly that.
It's mindless, unemotional TV.
There's no drama.
It's just...
Now, what they do, it looks like,
is they do them where they eliminate one
person,
and then at the end of the show,
they do like a team challenge,
and then one team goes home,
which is rough because it's just like we
talked at the top of the show.
One person can cost that whole team their
place there.
And so the, like the one,
the one team challenge was you had buckets
of water and you had to hold them
on your head and pour from bucket to
bucket and fill a tube at the end.
And the last team to fill a tube,
the whole team went home.
It was pretty crazy,
but it's the type of TV I have
on when I'm doing editing or something of
videos,
and I don't need to think about the
TV show because I'm thinking about what
I'm working on in that moment.
Vindicate,
there's so much dumb shit on TV,
I'd rather go for a walk.
That's probably the best option,
but there are times where I have to
edit videos and do things like that,
and I don't want something that I have
to pay close attention to,
and that's when I throw that stuff on.
It sounds like Double Dare.
Double Dare is fully team.
This is mostly individual,
and then at one point it becomes team.
it's kind of messy and then so in
that realm it's kind of like along that
line so well i have to blow my
nose so excuse me for one i think
that like
I took all these antibiotics for this
pneumonia I had.
And then I traveled to Montana and back.
And then I just,
I was more susceptible to everything going
on around me that I caught a stupid
summer cold in the process of all of
this.
But man, I'm just tired.
We talked about this yesterday.
I'm not going to go down that rabbit
hole again.
But man,
I'm just tired of my sinuses failing on
me.
So I did notice one thing.
I got to pull this back up because
it's still up here.
The Chris Spieler picture.
Yeah, the headphones are crazy.
But did you know the little,
what was that Apple iPad?
Not iPad.
Shit, iPod.
iPod mini or is that what it was
called right here?
It's on his belt.
It had no screen.
Um, it, I was just like,
I haven't seen one of those in at
least ten years.
Um,
So I see Nano, iPod Nano,
a couple people said.
One percent is another one you can put
on in the background, Scott,
if you haven't seen it.
I have seen it.
Here's the problem, Vicki.
When it comes to trivia, I am very,
very competitive.
And I've watched the one percent and I
love that it's not straight ahead trivia.
It's kind of like tricky trivia and I
have to like pay attention and play along.
That's the problem.
So.
iPod shuffle.
That's it.
That's it.
Vindicate for the win.
Vicky just graduated.
What'd you graduate with Vicky?
Yeah.
Shuffle because you couldn't see what the
track to play or choose next.
That's right.
I have an unopened shuffle in neon green.
And that's what Chris Spieler had,
a neon green shuffle.
Oh my goodness, Vicki,
a PhD in functional medicine.
That is awesome.
Awesome.
I was with Wild Health for a while,
and I really like the approach of
functional medicine.
I really do.
My only problem with Wild Health was like,
To get an appointment,
the wait times were so long because the
demand was there, but the supply wasn't.
And I hope we can get to a
point where we get enough functional
doctors to meet the supply of the demand
of how many people want that.
So...
I am hoping that you and your cohort,
Vicki,
are part of that group to move us
into the future where we have more options
for that.
Jess, I never heard of an iPod,
just a CD player with headphones.
You are you Wisconsin farm girl.
I had the two hundred gigabyte iPod.
Oh, my gosh.
That thing was.
I took it everywhere.
It had movies on it.
It had and I was I used to
travel a ton for work.
And so it had all of the movies.
music on it it had the movies on
it so whenever i was traveling i could
do whatever i needed to now the movie
was on an itty bitty square screen but
on an airplane at that point in time
in my life it was still fine um
vicky ever heard of regenerative
regenerative ag i think yeah i'm familiar
with what it is but nothing in depth
iPod is where podcast comes from.
Yeah.
Initially you download podcasts onto your
iPod and you could listen to podcasts on
your iPod.
That's it.
Yeah.
Technology has moved so fast in the last
twenty five years.
It is unreal where we were at and
where we are now.
I had a Walkman,
then a Discman with stabilization so CDs
wouldn't skip, then an MP three player,
then an iPod touch.
An iPod touch was just an iPhone without
cell service.
So yeah, and this CD stabilization thing.
Yeah, that's a lie.
If you hit a bump in your car,
it still skipped.
Back in my swimming days,
I had a Walkman cassette player that I
took everywhere.
And one day I was walking down the
pool and it came unhooked from my
sweatpants band and did like a bounce off
the deck and into the pool.
I was like, there we go.
That's over.
My parents were so pissed at me.
CD stabilization and mega bass.
Yeah.
Jody,
I was a Walkman person all through high
school.
I took one everywhere I went.
But after I lost the really nice Sony
one in the pool,
everything after that was like off-brand,
super cheap, and I just dealt with it.
Remember the days of CD players with the
corded cassette for your car so you could
play the CDs in the car?
Yes.
Yes.
You put the cassette in and somehow the
sound went through the wire into the
cassette into the tape player and on
through your speakers.
Wasn't there one where we didn't have to
flip the cassette?
That was high-end.
Yeah, there... Yeah.
Yeah,
it had a button on it you'd hit,
and it would just flip to the other
side of the cassette and start spinning it
in the opposite direction.
Man, you guys...
my first truck didn't have a radio so
i took my boom box with the removable
speakers out of my room and kept it
there until i could get a head unit
i ran through a ton of d batteries
yes vicky we are all old they don't
jenny they don't know they don't know how
much we had to work just to listen
to some music
I mean, I was a DJ,
a wedding DJ during the cassette era.
Like that was work.
Finding the song on the cassette,
setting it up to start right at the
right time,
putting it in and then cross fading it
over.
And you had to do it before the
other song was over.
It's crazy.
The, whoops, the Walkman,
the pain of the Walkman chewing your
cassette.
Oh, that was the worst.
All this Walkman talk reveals Scott's
demo.
Yep.
Jess, it was a nightmare.
Um, I would,
I would bring my cousin along with me
who was much younger than I was.
And I made it his job just to
find the song.
So I could take requests,
talk to the people,
do the things I needed to do.
And I,
and his whole job and I'd pay him
like fifty bucks and he would sit there
and just find songs all night long.
So, yeah, fun stuff.
The last thing I wanted to talk about
today, not to get off the Walkman talk,
but the other thing that happened last
night on the spin,
and it's something I don't understand,
and that is that
We have this group of people in the
fitness space that say that they're
professional athletes.
We have another group that say you're not
professional because of X, Y, and Z.
My question is, why does it matter?
Why does it matter what we call these
people?
Like,
If you want to call yourself professional,
call yourself professional.
I was on ESPN one night,
and there was professional cornhole.
If they want to call themselves
professional, go to town, buddy.
I don't really care.
And I know the prize purse for cornhole
cannot be anywhere near what the prize
purse is for the CrossFit Games.
So...
They want to call themselves professional.
It's no skin off of my back.
I don't understand the infatuation with
calling one thing professional or not.
It just doesn't make any sense to me.
And I'd love if someone has a take
on this that makes sense to tell me
why everybody is so consumed with this
definition.
Um, because it just doesn't matter.
It just doesn't matter to me.
I, I have no,
I have no qualms with the athletes calling
themselves professional.
If they earn some prize money,
whether it be three dollars or three
hundred thousand dollars,
it doesn't matter to me.
They made money doing a sport.
Call yourself professional.
I am cool with that.
Corey Leonard,
I saw a professional tag one day on
ESPN.
I know there's all kinds of crazy stuff
out there that they say they're
professional with.
I agree.
I think it started with so many people
claiming we need to professionalize the
sport.
Well, I think that's a different thing.
I think that is like in a business
sense, and CrossFit is a business,
you should do things in a way that
are professional.
And I think they're actually getting there
right now.
But for many, many years, they were not.
And so I think it's okay to want
the organizer of whatever it is you're
doing
whether you call it a sport or not,
to be professional in setting it up.
Now,
that is a different connotation of
professional than I am a professional
athlete.
Professional is engaged in a specified
activity as one's main paid occupation
rather than a pastime.
These athletes at the CrossFit Games are
not doing this for a pastime.
But again,
it doesn't matter to me if they want
to call themselves professional athletes.
And when you say professionalize the
sport, that is very different.
That is, hey, can we be more organized?
Can we set things up for success?
Can we be better than we were before?
Can we learn from our mistakes?
Those things.
Maybe the difference between pro and
amateur lies in motivation.
Pros do X primarily for financial gains.
Amateurs balance X and other life
obligations.
Again, it doesn't really matter to me,
though the label itself.
I don't think it changes what we do
or why the athletes do what they do.
And to argue over that just seems to
get us nowhere.
I get paid to DJ on the side.
Am I a professional DJ?
I would say so.
When I was a wedding DJ,
I'd had other jobs.
That was just my weekend gig.
And I got paid really well to do
it.
So I would say, yeah,
I was a professional.
And even more frustrating part of this
discussion are people claiming that an
athlete isn't professional unless they're
on a big salary apart from prize money,
sponsorship money.
What I know we're like,
we're getting so far down into the minutia
of what this is and it,
it doesn't even matter.
It's just a label.
It doesn't change what they're doing on or
off the floor and how they're training.
Jenny, I'm a professional mom.
Oh, wait, I don't get paid for that.
You get paid in hugs and love.
That's what my daughter would say.
Sean in Oregon, labels matter.
Young people and children look up to
professionals who are amplified by media.
Media doesn't pay much attention to
amateurs.
I agree,
but I don't think the label matters.
If the media are pumping up these
athletes,
and then people will look up to those
athletes.
They want to be what those athletes are,
whether we call them professionals or not.
We are treating them as such because this
media space has gotten so big,
everybody's talking about these people.
Our actions are saying more than the
words.
If we're talking about Tia Toomey and
we're talking about Jason Hopper and we're
talking about all the way down to Lydia
Fish and all those people,
we are pumping up these people in a
way that makes it that they are who
people look up to because of what we're
doing.
Spin, I am not a role model.
Hey, Jenny,
are you weirded out when random people
come up to you and say hi at
events?
I saw you there but was intimidated to
go say hi.
Jenny is a professional reporter and she
professionally reports the news and
professionally annoys soft people.
I'm professionally amused by her comment
section.
Jason, not at all.
Come say hi anytime.
I can vouch for that.
I saw Jenny at the games.
She was delightful.
She was bubbly.
She was energetic.
Just a delight to meet.
And David Reed,
they are athletes in a competitive sport.
Great athletes,
but CrossFit is not a professional sport.
Vindicate says, Jenny gives good hugs.
And Vicky says,
Corey has been on fire all day.
Jody,
I barged in on Jenny at the games.
She was very receptive.
Corey, I love the term delightful.
I say the dumbest things I know I
do.
I am like the most socially awkward person
in the space.
Um, so yeah, delightful jazzed.
I was jazzed to meet Jenny.
That's and she was with, um,
Judy Reed and her daughter.
At the time I was there,
there were good vibes everywhere.
Mark Phillips, according to ChatGPT,
a professional sport is one where the
athletes make a living from playing,
training, or competing,
supported by an industry of leagues,
sponsors, media, and fans.
Well, we definitely have the fans,
the media, sponsors,
and you kind of have a league.
So there you go.
Uh,
jazz to meet Jenny in the name of
my nineties cover band.
Oh my gosh.
It's a name.
Uh,
joseph ramirez i said something was the
tits the other day and no one understood
what i meant that's my life joseph that's
my life i always use the catchphrases from
the and nobody knows because i'm jazzed
babe i'm jazzed uh jody at least you
got their attention well on that note um
I'm going to call it,
get back to work.
Um,
and you knuckleheads probably need to get
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I'm going to go check that out.
Cause I want to see if I'm called,
um, I don't know,
whatever he called me last time.
Um,
creating stories that they don't like and
um just making shit up i didn't make
anything up people i didn't make anything
up but anyway i'll go listen to what
he has to say this time and we'll
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